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@sillymickel.bsky.socialOct 6, 2026, 9:31 PM

*WOUNDED DEER & CENTAURS* Ch 5, p 56

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WOMB WITH A VIEW — THE PRENATAL AND PERINATAL UNCONSCIOUS Page 56 …these memories as reported by the former neonate. They often contained technical details of the delivery and labor unlike what would be expected of the medically unsophisticated, a perceptive critique of the way the birth was handled, and other details of the event that could not have been known through normal conscious channels. Prenatal and Perinatal Psychology Overview — Next, the Womb Experience We see that a substantial body of literature and research — anecdotal, observational, experimental, and empirical — demonstrating the reality of and the importance of birth and its trauma has been going on for almost one-hundred years. But others, in time, went beyond birth and began to uncover prenatal influences and memories. This look into events in the womb and their significance for personality, behavior, and thought is what we deal with next, in Chapter 6, “Womb with a View.”
@sillymickel.bsky.socialOct 5, 2026, 6:30 PM

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Thus, both lay and professional folk have participated in a slander of his therapy, giving the inaccurate impression — purposely, for some, no doubt — that his therapy involves merely eliciting screams in his clients. Since some imitators have actually used his ideas to create ludicrous “therapies” of that sort — for example, Daniel Casriel’s “scream therapy” — this charge is particularly damning, insulting.1 In any case, Janov remains the unfortunate kicking-boy of a movement that is itself scapegoated by the academy and the larger scientific community. David Chamberlain — Hypnosis, Confirmed Validity of Birth Memories David Chamberlain (1988), for many years the president of APPPAH (the Association for Prenatal and Perinatal Psychology and Health), has further substantiated the claim of consciousness at birth and the accuracy of pre- and perinatal memory in the phenomenon of re- experience. He reported one study he did in which he compared hypnotically retrieved memories of birth from mother and child and found an astonishing degree of conformity in their responses. Of note was the degree of inner consistency and originality in… “WE AIN’T BORN TYPICAL” Page 55
@sillymickel.bsky.socialOct 4, 2026, 7:30 PM

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“WE AIN’T BORN TYPICAL” Page 55 …which remains as a touchstone in the field in its depth and detail. Imprints: The Lifelong Effects of the Birth Experience, published in 1983, among other things places birth as the determining factor in creating basic personality constructs, called sympathetic and parasympathetic, which roughly coincide with the more common terms introversion and extroversion. Janov’s work is more empirical and neurophysiologically rooted than most in the field, and this was especially true of this work. Nevertheless, while the book is recognized in the field, Janov and his work have not gotten anywhere near the respect and attention they deserve. His therapy involving having deep feeling experiences, primaling, of all kinds — his primal therapy, involving the re-experience of anger, sadness, grief, childhood, early life, birth, and painful events from all other times in life and involving the re- experience and release of all possible feelings — is reduced to and ridiculed as “primal scream therapy,” from the provocative title of his first book. Thus, both lay and professional folk have participated in a slander of his therapy, giving the inaccurate impression — purposely, for some, no doubt — that his therapy involves merely eliciting screams in his clients.
@sillymickel.bsky.socialOct 3, 2026, 6:48 PM

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In fact, she considers the cutting of the umbilical cord to be central in her theory of trauma, calling it the crisis umbilicus, and echoes Fodor in claiming that it is the true origin of the castration fears made so much of in psychoanalysis. This is so because, according to Feher, the cord and placenta is an object of security and is considered by the fetus to be part of him- or herself. Thus, this cutting represents a supreme threat in being a separation from a total life support system, a major organ, a part of oneself. In these ways, she also brings forward for renewed appreciation Rank’s speculations on the element of separation trauma as a crucial element of the birth trauma. Arthur Janov — Primal Therapy, Traumas of Birth and Early Life and Healing Them, Empirical Foundations and Neurophysiology of Early Events and Healing Perhaps the major theorist and popularizer of the phenomenon of re- experience (which he termed primaling), Arthur Janov was reluctant to acknowledge the pervasiveness of pre- and perinatal re-experience and trauma. Yet when he did, it was in a major work on birth trauma, "The cutting of the umbilical cord was said to be the true origin of castration fears."
@sillymickel.bsky.socialOct 2, 2026, 8:31 PM

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WOMB WITH A VIEW — THE PRENATAL AND PERINATAL UNCONSCIOUS Page 54 Importantly, a relief of symptoms seemed to follow from the re- experience of these birth memories. They came to the conclusion that a birth imprint occurs, which is induced by the extreme stress of that time and is resistant to fading from later experience. Further they asserted that this imprint could be the cause of a wide spectrum of psychiatric and psychosomatic disorders. Leslie Feher — Psychoanalysis, Birth, Cutting of Umbilical Cord, Separation Trauma Leslie Feher (1980) sought to extend the Freudian tradition farther back into areas that, she asserts, were until only recently unknowable. Thus, she describes a natal theory and therapy that includes experiences of cutting the umbilical cord, birth, and even prebirth. In fact, she considers the cutting of the umbilical cord to be central in her theory of trauma, calling it the crisis umbilicus, and echoes Fodor in claiming that it is the true origin of the castration fears made so much of in psychoanalysis. The cutting of the umbilical cord was said to be the true origin of castration fears.
@sillymickel.bsky.socialOct 1, 2026, 7:20 PM

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Still, professionals and theorists who sanction the practices and beliefs of an era or paradigm will always be lifted up for acclaim. That is, they are until the next paradigm becomes dominant, at which point they are seen as conciliatory, even as apologists for the matrix/paradigm in effect at the time. Truly, the radical formulations to be advanced by Janov, Grof, deMause, and myself later, among many who could be named from the 1970s on, were not to be had in 1958. Later Research and Theorists: Hypnosis, Primal Therapy, and Birth Cheek and LeCron — Hypnosis, Birth Memories and Imprints on Personality, and Relation to Psychiatric Disorders David Cheek and Leslie LeCron (1968) used hypnosis to retrieve early memories in their patients. They discovered that memories earlier than what they expected, going back to birth, were possible… “WE AIN’T BORN TYPICAL” Page 53
@sillymickel.bsky.socialSep 30, 2026, 7:36 PM

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“WE AIN’T BORN TYPICAL” Page 53 …sanctioning as it does the status quo, requiring no change (but allowing for no improvement, either), that is repeated endlessly. Put another way, Winnicott is touted as an important figure in the history of child development because he went along with what parents and professionals wanted to believe about child-rearing/parenting (including their own of both) and did not make waves. Since this book asserts that we need radical changes in prenatal, birth, and child-caring/parenting to bring about the access to the deeper human nature required for the survival of Earth’s life, his concession is important and represents a stumbling block, to the extent that it is still bandied about by child development professionals. Further, he rationalized that birth was a good thing, if done correctly, in contributing to ego strength. And he rationalized that the true self could be helped by the false self. People who want to “make nice” like this in the midst of contrasting theories and views are often highly regarded. In his defense, he could only be the product of his times; indeed, in the ways mentioned above, for example, the true and false selves and his views on therapy, he challenged some prevailing notions.
@sillymickel.bsky.socialSep 30, 2026, 2:42 AM

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Concessions to the Status Quo Still, a product of his times, he could not break completely with his culture and society, and he rationalized all kinds of child-care (child- rearing) as being “good enough,” in that they did not result in overt psychopathology. Although there are almost always covert psychopathologies, we later discovered, in even the most “normal” of us which can erupt at any time. There is no doubt in my mind that this concession to the norms of the child-caring of his time and to the truisms about child development and “rearing” embedded in the psychology of it accounts for the much greater regard accorded Winnicott, of all in the prenatal and perinatal field. Despite this, interestingly, his prenatal and perinatal understandings are hidden from child development texts. Not coincidentally, it is his “good enough” rationalization of the majority of child-rearing, non-confrontational as it is and… WOMB WITH A VIEW — THE PRENATAL AND PERINATAL UNCONSCIOUS Page 52
@sillymickel.bsky.socialSep 28, 2026, 9:34 PM

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WOMB WITH A VIEW — THE PRENATAL AND PERINATAL UNCONSCIOUS Page 52 Play Therapy and Reevaluations of Ego and Id Descending as he did from the Freudian tradition — Winnicott was a student of psychoanalyst, Melanie Klein — still, Winnicott, like some others being mentioned here, differed with Freud, not just in his interpretations of selves, or components of the psyche, but in the way to do therapy. He saw the psychoanalytic framework involving an authoritarian analyst and a compliant client as fostering the false self. Instead he used play, in his therapies, as a way to bring out and foster connection with the true self, which he saw as having components of creativity, wholeness, and well-being. Indeed, in seeing this component of personality, the true self — what Freud might interpret as the id — as being a source of healing, creativity, and growth, as opposed to the healing force emanating from the “rational” ego, his therapy was a turnabout on Freud’s. Similarly, his interpretation of what Freud would undoubtedly have called the ego as being a false self — one which blocks real aliveness, connection to others, and creativity, and is comprised of defenses seen as much less useful and necessary as Freud’s defenses were seen to be — is a similar significant revisioning of psychoanalytic understanding.
@sillymickel.bsky.socialSep 27, 2026, 9:03 PM

*WOUNDED DEER & CENTAURS* Ch 5, p. 51

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Furthermore, and slightly different from Janov, the significance of the true and false self for the purposes of the perinatal is that Winnicott saw the origins of the true and false selves as being in early infancy, related to the acquiring of satisfaction of needs in that early state. While Janov traces the beginnings of the split that far back, he stresses the consolidation of the unreal self and the near total split with the real self as occurring at a singular event occurring at the around age of four or five — the primal scene. The primal scene is the significant precipitating event causing one to give up one’s struggle to stay real and to surrender to the unreal. Aside from this difference in emphasis, the two are very much in agreement. However, the qualification I need to make regarding his conceptualizations versus Janov’s is that Winnicott saw value in the false self as somehow retaining the interests of the true self. In this way, he saw the false self — as Freud thought as well for his ego, only even more so — as having a function. This is completely unlike Janov who saw the unreal self as being something completely inauthentic which blocks the expression of the real self and needs to be overthrown, “violently,” as Janov put it. Thus Winnicott, in terms of the valuation and view of the ego/unreal self/false self holds a midway point between the positions of Freud and Janov. “WE AIN’T BORN TYPICAL” Page 51
@sillymickel.bsky.socialSep 26, 2026, 7:21 PM

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“WE AIN’T BORN TYPICAL” Page 51 …hope of getting one’s needs met or, put another way, in order to hold out hope for being loved. Winnicott’s true self and false self are pretty much the same, with qualifications I will mention. Winnicott saw the true self as the source of creativity, self-confidence, and contented satisfaction in one’s life and the false self as the one we develop to please others, which focuses on compliance and is essentially unreal and “phoney” — focused as it is on satisfying the needs of others in a roundabout, but thoroughly unconscious, way of trying to get one’s own needs filled. These aspects of personhood might also be related to Freud’s earlier postulation of an ego and an id, but they present a thorough reconceptualization of them, with the id emerging as a true self and a source of great value and the ego revealing its unreal roots and its nature as comprised of defenses. This is hugely significant.
@sillymickel.bsky.socialSep 26, 2026, 7:12 AM

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He has been called the first primal therapist in that he described the first birth primals — actual observable relivings of birth — spontaneously occurring to some of his patients during their sessions with him. Thus he was contributing to the trend beyond mere talking association or dream analysis as ways of accessing and integrating this material. True Self and False Self Winnicott presaged Arthur Janov’s assertion of the real self and the unreal self with his postulation of the true self and the false self. According to Janov, the real self is the healthy self that one would have been if one did not have painful traumas requiring the establishment of defenses, which block clear perception of reality; and the real self is recoverable through deep experiential psychotherapy, specifically, Janov would say, that of primal therapy. The unreal self, Janov contends, is the unhealthy self we all develop in order to get our needs met, which involves a denial of our real needs and compliance with outside others in order to receive safety and the… WOMB WITH A VIEW — THE PRENATAL AND PERINATAL UNCONSCIOUS Page 50
@sillymickel.bsky.socialSep 24, 2026, 9:03 PM

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WOMB WITH A VIEW — THE PRENATAL AND PERINATAL UNCONSCIOUS Page 50 …the mere “talking cure” of psychoanalysis and encouraged the “acting out” of the birth trauma during his clients’ sessions. Rank pushed for his patients to complete their therapy-psychoanalysis, which was similarly at odds with Freud’s insistence on an ongoing and unending psychoanalysis. In these two ways, he presaged therapeutic directives of primal and similar therapies half a century later. Donald W. Winnicott — First Primal Therapist? Birth Relivings, Importance of Birth — Negative Imprints but Positive Effects, Too Another psychoanalyst, and pediatrician as well, Winnicott (1958) also held that birth is remembered and is important. He insisted that the birth trauma is real, but he disagreed with Rank and Fodor that it is always traumatic. He suggested that a normal, nontraumatic, birth has many positive benefits, particularly for ego development. Still, he contended that traumatic birth is permanently etched in memory and leaves a lifetime psychological scar. Winnicott (1958) also suggested the possibility of prenatal trauma.
@sillymickel.bsky.socialSep 23, 2026, 6:46 PM

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Based upon the dream, fantasy, and other patterns of associations arising in his patients in psychoanalysis, Rank postulated a birth trauma, which he saw as a critical event in laying down in each of us particular patterns of thinking, motivation, and emotion for the rest of our lives. Notable among these prototypes was a feeling of a paradise once known but somehow lost, a separation anxiety caused by the separation at birth, and a resulting futile and lifelong struggle to re-unite with that golden age and that early beloved. Essentially, these things together, according to Rank, amounted to an underlying — disguised but prevalent — desire of humans to return to the womb. Rank also incurred Freud’s disapproval in that he went beyond… “The template for all you think was created at birth." “Birth trauma creates a feeling of a paradise lost, a separation anxiety, and a futile and lifelong struggle to re-unite with that golden age and that early beloved and to return to the womb." “WE AIN’T BORN TYPICAL” Page 49
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“WE AIN’T BORN TYPICAL” Page 49 “The Next Frontier in Evolution and About the Author,” this amazing mistake is explained and I put forward several explanations — one psychological and one evolutional — for the persistence of this obvious faux pas in science. Otto Rank — Psychoanalysis, Birth Trauma, Foundations of Personality and Some Myth, Separation Anxiety Other early psychoanalysts disagreed with Freud on this. Otto Rank is the most notable of these. Following Freud’s basic psychoanalytic reasoning for personality patterns in early infancy, he asserted basic patterns of experience and ideas that are rooted in even earlier experience. Rank (1929) claimed the deepest, most fundamental patterns of these personality constructs originated at the time of birth, which Freud thought was not possible. "The Evidence That Life’s Blueprint Is Written at Birth: Prenatal and Perinatal Psychology Overview — Early Theorists, Psychoanalysis, & Birth"
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Early Theorists: Psychoanalysis and Birth Sigmund Freud — Birth as Prototype for All Anxiety While Freud (1927) disregarded major effects of birth on personality, he still saw the birth experience as the prototype of all later anxiety. His overall disregard of birth, however, was largely influenced by the belief — although discredited (see Chamberlain, 1988, and below), still common in mainstream psychology and medicine today — that a newborn does not possess the neurological capacity for consciousness at birth. Remember that in Chapter 2,… "Our supposed “human nature,” actually our Unnatural Self, is fashioned at birth and before." WOMB WITH A VIEW — THE PRENATAL AND PERINATAL UNCONSCIOUS Page 48
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WOMB WITH A VIEW — THE PRENATAL AND PERINATAL UNCONSCIOUS Page 48 Chapter 5 “We Ain’t Born Typical”: “Human Nature” Is Fashioned at Birth and Before ... Overview of Prenatal and Perinatal Psychology, Part One Early Theorists: Psychoanalysis and Birth