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@mrbates.bsky.socialOct 14, 2026, 9:34 PM

Much appreciated Peter.

@mrbates.bsky.socialOct 14, 2026, 6:51 AM

Hi @psteidinger.bsky.social , if you have the time could you let me know if I am wrong to apply the zone of proximal development to learning? People are telling me I am conflating development with learning and to use zone of proximal development I need to make the distinction clear.

@mrbates.bsky.socialOct 11, 2026, 3:03 PM

peter, what are your thoughts on Barsalou's theory of situated conceptualisation. For me this is the closest i have found to my way of imagining the space in which the propositional, perspectival and participatory ways of knowing all come together.

@mrbates.bsky.socialOct 11, 2026, 2:02 PM

So would you agree that knowing cannot only be captured by the having of propositions but knowing also needs to come from different ways of taking perspectives and different ways of participating?

@mrbates.bsky.socialOct 11, 2026, 1:37 PM

so true as in the truest description of a thing rather than propositionally true / factually true. does that capture the distinction?

@mrbates.bsky.socialOct 11, 2026, 1:33 PM

so we can keep changing our frame of reference looking fo rthe deepest possible principle that coherently unpins all the other frames and this would be called the 'true concept' ?

@mrbates.bsky.socialOct 11, 2026, 1:30 PM

(yes i believe all concepts are by necessity generalisations). (I might go as far as to say it allows ways, not just new ways because of the combinatorial explosion of decision making if we had to include every detail without reducing to relevant conceptualisations)

@mrbates.bsky.socialOct 11, 2026, 1:23 PM

would you be happy with 'changing your frame of reference' instead of distancing?

@mrbates.bsky.socialOct 11, 2026, 1:20 PM

when you say via concepts, are you saying the mechanism by which we take a distanced perspective is best described as conceptual in nature?

@mrbates.bsky.socialOct 11, 2026, 1:18 PM

Beautifully explained Peter. I really appreciate reading your thinking on this. It strongly resonates with a lot of what i believe to be of fundamental importance.

@mrbates.bsky.socialOct 11, 2026, 12:45 PM

Ok this is getting weird. Bloom et al have clearly stated there is a progression from simple to complex. Carl acknowledges this. And yet you are flatly denying the clearly hierarchy nature of the cognitive behaviours. I was interested in why but you just seem to be doubling down so I’m no longer.

@mrbates.bsky.socialOct 11, 2026, 10:43 AM

Here is the quote from Carl “So although the committee did arrange its six categories from simple to complex”

@mrbates.bsky.socialOct 11, 2026, 10:41 AM

And how schools use the visual is not inherent to the visual. And we should not deny the nature of a thing just because people might misunderstand a thing. That is a false equivocation that leads to false reasoning.

@mrbates.bsky.socialOct 11, 2026, 10:38 AM

I’m truly surprised you see absolutely no pattern between the ‘cognitive behaviours’ and just as surprised that you believe bloom did not either. Like I said I believe they explicitly said that these cognitive behaviours are roughly sequential in reference to their complexity.

@mrbates.bsky.socialOct 11, 2026, 8:15 AM

Let me ask you a couple of questions. What sequence would you put them in? Why would you put them in that sequence? Why did Bloom et al decide to put them in this particular sequence?

@mrbates.bsky.socialOct 11, 2026, 8:09 AM

You don’t think they are at all hierarchical in nature? I believe even in carls writing he quotes them as saying they are hierarchical in complexity.

@mrbates.bsky.socialOct 11, 2026, 7:55 AM

Absolutely true. Somehow you need to find a way to carve out your own priorities and triage the priorities of others in a way that fundamentally aligns.

@mrbates.bsky.socialOct 11, 2026, 7:48 AM

Yes but importantly, But which work do you love doing? Which work has the greatest impact on increasing the love of the work that you do? If you can prioritise this.

@mrbates.bsky.socialOct 11, 2026, 7:42 AM

Honestly, why does anyone care about the pyramid? I can see that for some, the underlying reason is because for them it fuels the knowledge before critical thinking ideology. Otherwise, I can’t see an issue with Blooms ideas being presented as a pyramid. Why the hoo-ha?

@mrbates.bsky.socialOct 10, 2026, 9:26 PM

How would you describe the concept of orientation Peter?

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