Given that they brutalise the occupants, demolish their houses and steal their land it would be astonishing if those abused didn't fight back. Anyone doing so, armed or not, will be killed. Indeed protesters suffer the same fate.

I doubt Farage has ever wanted to lead a political party, shaped to bid for power. His motivations appear to be money & media attention. Reform's unexpected polling performance followed by GE results, rather forced his hand. He's access to enough £ to build structure, that he does not is telling.

The problem is that there are thousands of Jews in Palestine. Most of them are heavily armed soldiers with little regard for the lives of those who live there. The rest are heavily armed and uncontrolled "settlers" destroying crops, beating up residents and, now, diplomatic and religious visitors.

The roots of Liverpool's failure last season, having won the league at a canter the previous season, had been clear 18 months ago. Arsenal ground it out last season. They haven't moved on.

I would argue that the state of Israel should never have been established in the way that it was nor should it have been allowed to develop as it has. However, it does exist and that needs to be acknowledged. All it's people (should) have the same rights accorded to the rest of us.

And if you haven't spotted it yet,there is a correlation in personal accounts between the numbers the account-holder chooses to follow and the number of followers it has.

If you didn't think my view was important you wouldn't be responding.

Three things happen when people have no answer. In this case my point on international law and, by implication, the rejection of that by Israel. One is to dodge the issue, another is to resort to irrelevant comments about followers and, finally a resort to insults.

Many Arabs did not and still do not recognise the state of Israel and its right to exist, others do, yet others don't care either way. The state of Israel does not recognise the state of Palestine. It murders, assaults and imprisons the people who live there and supports theft of their land.

What a strange interpretation.

I question the accuracy of your first statement, but let it pass. International law doesn't allow the "there's more us than you so we are taking over militarily" approach to nation building. The US and others intervened to prevent just such attempts, not entirely successfully, in the Balkans.

I don't condemn it, I do question its partiality.

You'll have to translate I'm afraid.

Israel controls a large area not recognised as part of the state. The original inhabitants of those areas do not have the same rights as Israeli citizens. They are treated differently. They are beaten, they are killed. their crops and homes are destroyed. Call it what you will, I call it evil.

Tell me what is untrue in what I posted.

Understand what I wrote and read your history of the Zionist movement and the creation of the state of Israel. Then tell me I'm wrong.

Yep, that's me alright. Your point is ... ?

People, all of us, have rights. The Israeli state secures the rights of those it deems worthy of citizenship by trampling on the rights of those it does not. Including the right to life itself. If that isn't evil I don't know what is.

Herzl's original aim was legitimate. The means by which it has been achieved and extended have not been.

When you quote this source you rather make my point don't you think?