"I am being a giant prick, but please drop this"

he got banned from twitter and bluesky for saying he was going to come kill me

You really hate to see Josh Marshall coming down with Will Stancil Derangement Syndrome. It really can happen to you.

But of course you immediately came in and started calling me stupid

Where in here am I "incensed," exactly?

Yes, because no one on Bluesky needs to be convinced that “AI is conscious” is a strong claim requiring evidence. The post is addressed to a particular audience.

It’s literally not a silly claim. You got into this whole dumb thing because you decided to argue with an actual philosopher who said the claim should be interrogated seriously. You don’t have any kind of real argument it’s a silly claim, it’s just knee-jerk reaction followed by personal attacks.

I genuinely don’t know what you mean by this. “Current AI isn’t conscious” is a strong claim requiring affirmative evidence. “Current AI is conscious” is a strong claim requiring affirmative evidence. So what exactly are you disagreeing with me about

This whole thing started because a philosopher said “big accounts are getting over their skis dunking on AI consciousness claims when obviously it’s kinda a hard question, even if you’re skeptical, and ‘we don’t know’ is more conservative claim than ‘we know they aren’t’”

Who on earth is saying “AI is conscious” is a claim that needs no evidence

I mean wtf is going on here

yeah, "this person isn't a real human being" is actually kind of famously a nasty thing to say to someone. you have been insulting me over and over unprompted for days. what's going on? feel like your rep needs a boost?

real defenders of humanity

one really telling thing is how quickly the anti-AI fanatics will say you're not a real human being for disagreeing with them

You are responding to someone who is broadly restating my argument and saying "He is not interested in that argument," because your entire interest here is insulting me. You reply to me all day, insulting me, and then you go through the tweets of other people insulting me and like them.

It’s not the same argument

yes imagine someone feeling amazement and wonder and curiosity and confusion and terror about the strange realities of the world, truly those people should steer fully clear of literature and art

It’s definitely doable but people think being caught doing it is embarrassing- you’re taking the idea seriously! - and are thus very proud of their refusal to think about the questions.

Turing test fails not because the models are robotic, but because you can ask a hard factual question and the one that rattles off a long answer is the machine

Oh a segue to another funny point. Turing proposed a test for *thinking* to see if machine intelligence could *approach human intelligence*. Like if the machine was smart enough Now we come at it from the other direction. We can just ask "Explain Navier-Stokes" and the one who can answer is the bot