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@sillymickel.bsky.socialOct 15, 2026, 9:33 PM

*WOUNDED DEER & CENTAURS* Ch 6, p. 61

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Later Theorists: Dream Analysis, Archetypes, Philosophy, and the Devolutional Theory of Consciousness and Spiritual Awareness

Francis Mott โ€” Conception and Gestational Basis of Myth, Archetype, all Patterns of Macrocosmic and Microcosmic Realities and the Nature of Reality; Devolutional Model of Development

A follower of Nandor Fodor, Francis Mottโ€™s work is less well known even by this fieldโ€™s standards, yet it is undeniably impressive. Mottโ€™s (1960, 1964) major contribution lies in his focusing on basic patterns of mind and cosmos that correlate with prenatal feelings and states. He traced consciousness back to events around conception and saw these events as instituting patterns affecting all later experience and conceptual constructions. Through dream analysis he elicited these โ€œconfigurations,โ€ and he demonstrated their manifestation as seemingly universal archetypes in myths and universal human assumptions about the nature of reality.

The template for all you believe was written in the womb.
@sillymickel.bsky.socialOct 14, 2026, 10:12 PM

*WOUNDED DEER & CENTAURS* Ch 6, p 60

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Vernyโ€™s other conclusions center on the importance of intrauterine bonding in that his research strongly suggests that the prenate, via pathways hormonal and unknown, picks up on the thoughts, feelings, and attitudes of the mother. More importantly, he asserted, the imprint of these factors on the fetus predetermines the later mother-child relationship. He emphasized that positive thoughts and feelings toward the fetus โ€” โ€œmaternal loveโ€ โ€” acts to cushion the new individual against the normal stresses and unavoidable harshness inherent in birth and early infancy. Yet all of this cannot be completely avoided.โ€œBirth is like death to the newborn,โ€ writes Verny.2

โ€œBirth is like death to the newborn.โ€

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@sillymickel.bsky.socialOct 13, 2026, 9:24 PM

*WOUNDED DEER & CENTAURS: The Necessary Hero & The Prenatal Matrix of Human Events* (2016) by Michael Adzema. Ch 6, p. 60

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โ€ฆof the new empirical research that had opened the doors to us on the  events in the womb. While himself a practitioner of โ€œholistic primal  therapy,โ€ he integrated the accumulating data from the phenomenon  of re-experience with the new information from the more traditional,  โ€œobjective,โ€ scientific research into the prenatal โ€” made possible by  the latest advances in technology.

One of his conclusions from this combination of lines of inquiry  was that โ€œbirth and prenatal experiences form the foundations of  human personality.โ€1 Consider how  that statement alone is a frontal assault  on the prevailing paradigm of    personality theory, with its nature-  versus-nurture category, which ignores    the birth and prenatal life of humans as  causes, as explained in Chapter 2.

โ€œ...birth and prenatal  experiences form the  foundations of human  personality.โ€
@sillymickel.bsky.socialOct 12, 2026, 8:53 PM

*WOUNDED DEER & CENTAURS* Ch 6, p 59

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enclosing and constricting force. He also noted the suffering fetus and the poisonous placenta as sources of these later metaphors and imagery. In fact, in studying the imagery in the national media of various countries he has been able to predict political, social, and economic events such as wars and invasions, recessions, and political downfalls.

His work begins to look at the prenatal influences and imprints and how they related to macrocosmic issues of politics, history, social movements, and issues of war and peace. His work is extremely relevant to the issues of this book, in some ways it has inspired my work here; and we will be returning to him again and again in this work.

Thomas Verny โ€” Primal Therapy, Birth, Especially Womb Life and Relation to Personality ... Prenatal Mother-Infant Bonding

The actual stimulus for a new field of pre- and perinatal psychology and for its major association, the Association for Pre- and Perinatal Psychology and Health (APPPAH) was Thomas Vernyโ€™s (1981) The Secret Life of the Unborn Child. His work brought together a good dealโ€ฆ

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@sillymickel.bsky.socialOct 11, 2026, 10:46 PM

*WOUNDED DEER & CENTAURS* Ch 6, p 59

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Lloyd deMause โ€” Psychohistory, Poisonous Placenta and Prenatal Imprints, Sociohistorical Implications of Gestational and Birth Events

Lloyd deMause (1982, 1987, 2002) was instrumental in establishing the new interdisciplinary field of psychohistory. In his study of historical happenings, he discovered that stages in the progression of public events of national, international scope and of historical importance โ€” including invasions, elections, wars, programs and policies, uprisings, depressions and recessions, and much more โ€” related to stages in the progression of gestation and birth ... which stages happened to correspond, by the way, remarkably well with Stanislav Grofโ€™s four stages of birth, his Basic Perinatal Matrices, as we shall see.

He found that natal imagery especially predominates in societies during times of crisis and war, when national purpose and state of affairs are construed as a need to escape or break free from an enclosing and constricting force. He also noted the suffering fetus and the poisonous placenta as sources of these later metaphors and imagery.
@sillymickel.bsky.socialOct 10, 2026, 8:27 PM

*WOUNDED DEER & CENTAURS* Ch 6, p. 58

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While he himself experienced and believed in the validity of certain transpersonal phenomena โ€” he believed in contact with the dead and it is said he had a moving experience interacting with his late father at a sรฉance โ€” and he had a post at the International Institute for Psychical Research, in several of his works he showed how some paranormal phenomena were rooted in psychological issues and were outward projections of them. He said ghosts were repressed components of the personality and that poltergeists were bundles of projected psychic energy from early trauma. Hence, they were not real as being paranormal ... or โ€œspiritualโ€/transpersonal. His conclusion that some spiritual experiences are valid, but that others are rooted in traumas and are merely psychological is exactly the position I came to, independently.

At any rate, his controversial stand, which had him discrediting certain phenomena that his paranormal associates favored, got him in trouble in their associations and related publications, and he was dismissed from the Institute for Psychical Research and slandered in one of the newspapers put out by his associates.

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@sillymickel.bsky.socialOct 9, 2026, 9:32 PM

*WOUNDED DEER & CENTAURS* Ch 6, p. 58

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โ€ฆeffects of birth and to process prenatal memories. He was the first to mention actual relivings of birth, in which verifiably accurate memories of birth were recovered. He agreed with Rank on many points, but he stressed the origins of consciousness and of trauma being in the prenatal period. He likened birth to death, as he explained that is the way the prenate experiences the drastic change involved in birth; and he claimed that our memory of that death-birth experience is what accounts for our fear of death as adults.

A related interest of his is the one for which he is most remembered. He researched paranormal phenomena, including ghosts and poltergeists, and his conclusions are significant. You will see how his views presaged my own, when I discuss my work around โ€œA Primal Perspective on Spiritualityโ€ (1985), in a little bit.
@sillymickel.bsky.socialOct 8, 2026, 10:38 PM

*WOUNDED DEER & CENTAURS* Ch 6, p. 57

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Later Theorists: Societal Implications, Psychohistory, Birth and Prenatal, The Secret Life of the Unborn Child 

Nandor Fodor โ€” Dreamwork, Birth and Prenatal Processing and Relivings, Prenatal Origins of Consciousness and Trauma, Validity of the Paranormal

Also a psychoanalyst, as well as being an associate of Sigmund Freud, Nandor Fodor (1949) focused on the reflections of birth and prenatal material in dreams. While Winnicott and some others referred to the prenatal as being significant in development, it is with Fodor, and his follower, Francis Mott, that it is most developed.

He also designed interventions in therapy to release the negativeโ€ฆ

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@sillymickel.bsky.socialOct 7, 2026, 7:05 PM

*WOUNDED DEER & CENTAURS* Ch 6, p 57

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Chapter 6  

Womb with a View:  

Everything You Believe, You Learned as a Fetus ... Overview of Prenatal and Perinatal  Psychology, Part Two  

Later Theorists: Societal Implications, Psychohistory, Birth and Prenatal, The Secret Life of the Unborn Child