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@sillymickel.bsky.socialSep 22, 2026, 9:25 PM

*FALLS FROM GRACE* CH 3. p 15

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PRE/PERINATAL PSYCHOLOGY AND PHENOMENON OF RE-EXPERIENCE

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โ€ฆof that time and is resistant to fading from later experience. Further they asserted that this imprint could be the cause of a wide spectrum of psychiatric and psychosomatic disorders.

Leslie Feher

Psychoanalysis, Birth, Cutting of Umbilical Cord, Separation Trauma

Leslie Feher (1980) sought to extend the Freudian tradition farther back into areas that, she asserts, were until only recently unknowable. Thus, she describes a natal theory and therapy that includes experiences of cutting the umbilical cord, birth, and even prebirth. In fact, she considers the cutting of the umbilical cord to be central in her theory of trauma, calling it the โ€œcrisis umbilicus,โ€ and echoes Fodor in claiming that it is the true origin of the castration fears made so much of in psychoanalysis. This is so because, according to Feher, the cord and placenta is an object of security and is considered by the fetus to be part of him- or herself. Thus, this cutting represents a supreme threat in being a separation from a total life support system, a major organ, a part of oneself. In these ways, she also brings forward for renewed appreciation Rankโ€™s speculations on the element of separation trauma as a crucial element of the birth trauma.
@sillymickel.bsky.socialSep 21, 2026, 8:03 PM

*FALLS FROM GRACE* CH 3. p. 14

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The cutting of the umbilical cord was said to be the true origin of castration fears.... โ€œBirth is like death to the  newborn.โ€

David Cheek and Leslie LeCron

Hypnosis, Birth Memories and Imprints on Personality and Relation to Psychiatric Disorders

Cheek and LeCron (1968) used hypnosis to retrieve early memories in their patients. They discovered that memories earlier than what they expected, going back to birth, were possible.  Importantly, a relief of symptoms seemed to follow from the re- experience of these birth memories. They came to the conclusion  that a birth imprint occurs, which is induced by the extreme stressโ€ฆ

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@sillymickel.bsky.socialSep 21, 2026, 6:50 AM

*FALLS FROM GRACE: The Devolution and Revolution of Consciousness* (2014) by Michael Adzema

CHAPTER 7, p. 41

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THE LEGITIMACY OF PRENATAL SPIRITUALITY  

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Is Catharsis Anti-Spiritual?

Attacking from the other side we have Wilber (1982) claiming that preverbal experiences are to be distinguished from transpersonal experiences. He claims that โ€œbecause both pre-X and trans-X are, in their own ways, non-X, they may appear similar, even identical, to the untutored eye,โ€ whereas in reality they are profoundly different (p. 5). He posits a structure of linear development in which one conceivably could โ€œregressโ€ to pre-X, to prepersonal experience, and mistake it for transpersonal experience. 

Therefore he would claim that such experiences as we undergo in the phenomenon of re-experience are actual โ€œregressionsโ€ on the spiritual path and are antithetical to a true spiritual quest. He would  also claim a spiritual meditative practice is antithetical to one of re- experience or โ€œregression therapy.โ€

Meditation Is Often Emotionally โ€œMessyโ€

Wilberโ€™s theory strikes me as a curiously dualistic way of interpreting a nondichotomous reality. And although his reasoning is tight and internally consistent, it excludes the evidence of transpersonal experience as exhibited in the spiritual, psychedelic,
@sillymickel.bsky.socialSep 20, 2026, 8:18 PM

*FALLS FROM GRACE* CH 3. p 14

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Chapter 3

Overview of the Prenatal and Perinatal Psychology Field โ€” Later Research and Theorists: Hypnosis, Primal Therapy, and  Birth

The cutting of the umbilical cord was said to be the true origin of castration fears.... โ€œBirth is like death to the  newborn.โ€
@sillymickel.bsky.socialSep 19, 2026, 7:27 PM

*FALLS FROM GRACE* CH 2. p. 13

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Donald W. Winnicott

First Primal Therapist? Birth Relivings, Importance of Birth โ€” Negative Imprints but Positive Effects, Too

Another psychoanalyst, and pediatrician as well, Winnicott (1958) also held that birth is remembered and is important. He insisted that the birth trauma is real, but he disagreed with Rank and Fodor that it is always traumatic. He suggested that a normal, nontraumatic, birth has many positive benefits, particularly for ego development. Still, he contended that traumatic birth is permanently etched in memory and leaves a lifetime psychological scar. Winnicott (1958) also suggested the possibility of prenatal trauma.

He has been called the first primal therapist in that he described the first birth primals โ€” actual observable relivings of birth โ€” spontaneously occurring by some of his patients during their sessions with him. Thus he was beginning the trend beyond mere talking association or dream analysis as ways of accessing and integrating this material.
@sillymickel.bsky.socialSep 18, 2026, 9:01 PM

*FALLS FROM GRACE* CH 2. p. 12

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Nandor Fodor

Dreamwork, Birth and Prenatal Processing and Relivings, Prenatal Origins of Consciousness and Trauma

Also a psychoanalyst, Nandor Fodor (1949) focused on the reflections of birth and prenatal material in dreams. He also designed interventions in therapy to release the negative effects of birth and to process prenatal memories. He was the first to mention actual relivings of birth, in which veridical memories were recovered. He agreed with Rank on many points, but he stressed the origins of consciousness and of trauma being in the prenatal period.

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@sillymickel.bsky.socialSep 18, 2026, 1:10 AM

*FALLS FROM GRACE* CH 2. p. 12

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Otto Rank Psychoanalysis, Birth Trauma, Foundations of Personality and Some Myth, Separation Anxiety

Other early psychoanalysts disagreed with Freud on this. Otto Rank is the most notable of these. Following Freudโ€™s basic psychoanalytic reasoning for personality patterns in early infancy, he asserted basic patterns of experience and ideas that are rooted in even earlier experience. Rank (1929) claimed the deepest, most fundamental patterns of these personality constructs originated at the time of birth, which Freud thought was not possible. Based upon the dream, fantasy, and other patterns of associations arising in his patients in psychoanalysis, Rank postulated a birth trauma, which he saw as a critical event in laying down in each of us particular patterns of thinking, motivation, and emotion for the rest of our lives. Notable among these prototypes was a feeling of a paradise once known but somehow lost, a separation anxiety caused by the separation at birth, and a resulting futile and lifelong struggle to re-unite with that golden age and that early beloved because of a desire to return to the womb.