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@sillymickel.bsky.socialOct 1, 2026, 5:42 PM

*DANCE OF THE SEVEN VEILS I* Prol, Ch 3, p. 41

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In the next book in this Path of Ecstasy Series, Womb with a View, I will expand on the very important topic, introduced in this work, of womb experiences, which create our world of seemingly irrefutable beliefs, which therefore guide everything we do. Its explication begins, however, in this project in Veil Six. Then, in Cells with a View, which is the book to follow that in the Series, I will detail how our basic metaphysical assumptions about Reality, especially in its physical aspect, for example, duality, space and time, being and becoming, and so on, are imprinted upon us through our cellular experiences in coming into the world. It also is introduced in this work of Dance of the Seven Veils under the part, “Veil Seven.” In looking at these matrices embedded in us, especially through our cellular and womb and birth experiences, it will be possible to have our best chance to get a look at existence outside of these matrices — the No-Form State. Just as in the primal process, where each connection allows us the freedom to look at the world differently, and not, for a change, to have to see it through the lenses of our primal pains; so also I hope to show you how the most profound understandings of Reality can… 3. THE FARTHER REACHES OF HUMAN EXPERIENCE Page 41
@sillymickel.bsky.socialOct 1, 2026, 1:03 AM

*DANCE OF THE SEVEN VEILS I: Primal/Identity Psychology, Mythology, & Your Real Self* (2017)

Prol, Ch 5, p. 66

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PROLOGUE: PRIMAL PSYCHOLOGY, FARTHER REACHES OF EXPERIENCE Page 66 …-ating purification practices — we see this matrix, this template being acted out. It pops up frequently, as well, in the paranoid delusions of both psychotics and neurotics as a fear of someone having poisoned their food. This prenatal experience is the reason that particular fear of poisoning — of all the things possible of which one could conceivably be afraid — shows up so much and is associated so frequently with paranoid delusions. Just look, within right-wing and conspiracy theories, to the pervasiveness of the idea of being poisoned, intentionally — through inoculations and vaccines, by fluoride in water, and so on. While it is an ongoing struggle to keep our food, water, and air free from the pollutants that corporations, cutting corners for profit, are wont to impose on us; still, this realistic threat is amplified and expanded to much else which is innocent or helpful, due to this underlying trauma of being force-fed toxins prior to birth. We are forever afraid, subconsciously, of having poisons “shoved down our throats,” as the saying goes. For there was a time when we experienced the flow of blood and its nutrients, increasingly over the last three months, to be tainted and impure. It was insufficient in oxygen, as mentioned for PME 2, yet there was also a backlog of toxins from the byproducts of food conversion not being removed adequately.
@sillymickel.bsky.socialSep 30, 2026, 6:58 PM

*DANCE OF THE SEVEN VEILS I* Prol, Ch 3, p. 41

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3. THE FARTHER REACHES OF HUMAN EXPERIENCE Page 41 ….state was an “alive” state, and it was one into which we transitioned after death and is where we exist prior to being reborn. The Wombular and Cellular Veils of Perception And now what is at hand, though I have been sharing these ideas widely for decades in both professional and nonprofessional circles, is an understanding of the bases of our understandings of reality as formed by our early experiences, most importantly those in the womb and as cells. This points to a provocative inquiry into the nature of Reality beyond the confines of physical life, beyond the templates laid down in us of early, prenatal, and cellular human experience ... beyond the “seven Veils.” In Dance of the Seven Veils, this work laid out in three books, I describe how our personalities, and especially our basic mythologies, theologies, and beliefs, are laid down in us through our earliest experiences — adolescence, infancy, birth, the womb, and cellular existence, with each stage of development incorporating and reframing the conceptualizations previous.
@sillymickel.bsky.socialSep 30, 2026, 8:24 AM

*DANCE OF THE SEVEN VEILS I: Primal/Identity Psychology, Mythology, & Your Real Self* (2017) by Michael Adzema

Prol, Ch 5, p. 65

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Poisoned-Disgusted, PME 3 Every time people say, “Don’t give (feed) me that bullshit!”, they are expressing the next, this third, prenatal matrix. I have termed this the prenatal matrix of evil 3, PME 3, for short. What is involved in this is the factor of the blood flow, constricted and reduced by the compression of the mother’s arteries feeding the placenta, becoming impure for lack of efficient removal of the byproducts of food conversion. It is characterized by feelings of sickening, nausea, disgust, infection, imposition and verbal or indirect attack (paranoia), and victimization. The world is no longer felt as pure. And everywhere in cultures — from evangelical Christians preaching on the downfall into sin of contemporary society, or primitives engaging in regular and intense rituals of cleansing of “pollutions” that are felt to have “built up” in the tribe, to spiritualists and yogis engaging in all manners of complicated, often painfully meticulous, and often excruci- 5. THE PRENATAL MATRIX OF “HUMAN NATURE” Page 65
@sillymickel.bsky.socialSep 29, 2026, 9:15 PM

*DANCE OF THE SEVEN VEILS I* Prol, Ch 3, p 40

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An Experiential Metaphysical — Experience Is Divinity and Funny God Subsequent to these discoveries and their eventual postulations as theories, frameworks for understanding, and paradigms, came a further elaboration that involved a description of Reality as essentially Experience, with matter being metaphor for true existence — which was coincident with the findings of quantum physics and Idealistic and panentheistic perspectives of all times. This I did in Experience Is Divinity: Matter As Metaphor (2013). In it, I addressed the metaphysical basis of reality. As I put it, the data from consciousness research calls for an existential metaphysical, one that takes as the basic unit of Reality to be one’s immediate Experience in any moment, with all its components of experience — cognitive, emotional, sensations, feelings, and experiences even subtler, for which there might as yet be no words. I also put forth an understanding of spiritual or metaphysical reality and the corresponding life program and goals that come from it in Funny God: The Tao of Funny God and the Mind’s True Liberation (2015). Additionally, I introduced the notion of the No-Form State — as being the state outside of all falls from grace, both prior to Form ... that is, before the creation of sperm and egg ... and after Form, which is to say, after death. Based on empirical data of several kinds, I speculated that such a… PROLOGUE: PRIMAL PSYCHOLOGY, FARTHER REACHES OF EXPERIENCE Page 40
@sillymickel.bsky.socialSep 28, 2026, 10:22 PM

*DANCE OF THE SEVEN VEILS I: Primal/Identity Psychology, Mythology, & Your Real Self* (2017) by Michael Adzema.

Prol, Ch 5, p. 65

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5. THE PRENATAL MATRIX OF “HUMAN NATURE” Page 65 …of and ease those wants. That is to say, out of this unconscious trauma, we “suck up” and relinquish our dignity. In America, we become Republicans. Democrats, at least, know what I am talking about there. How else to explain poor and working-class folks voting for the likes of a daddy Trump? This shows that in acting out of the ignorance that this Veil brings — all Veils obfuscate Reality and thereby create ignorance and so also stupid choices — we actually create that which we fear. Certainly everyone’s greed, cumulatively, results in deprivation all about, which would not otherwise occur. And certainly sycophancy to daddy figures who promise to take care of us results in handing over one’s power to those who will use it for their gains, not yours, and indeed — as the Trump example demonstrates — at your expense. We express this mythologically when we describe Tantalus being eternally punished by being forced to stand in a pool of water that forever recedes and cannot quench his thirst while meanwhile being unable to reach the low hanging fruit above him, among other examples in fairy tale and mythology of frustration and forever lack and craving: The tale of King Midas with the golden touch, which turned everything into gold and thereby made it unusable, and Aesop’s Fable of the “Fox and the Grapes,” where the fox finds the grapes are out of his reach, come readily to mind.
@sillymickel.bsky.socialSep 28, 2026, 7:31 PM

*DANCE OF THE SEVEN VEILS I* Prol, Ch 3, p 40

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PROLOGUE: PRIMAL PSYCHOLOGY, FARTHER REACHES OF EXPERIENCE Page 40 Thus, the purpose of life was to experience what one would as ego — as seemingly imperfect, muddled, and often out and out seemingly wrong, as that necessarily would be — in order to, by pain and unhappiness, be prodded into a path of return, spiritual return, primal spiritual return, back to Divinity, wholeness, and Grace. You’re born, you become less, you create an ego, separate from the All, you have experiences. These experiences enrich you, though they seem to be mistakes at the time. You seek your own destruction through them, as well, so that in this lifetime or many, you return to the All. An Experiential Metaphysical — Experience Is Divinity and Funny God Subsequent to these discoveries and their eventual postulations as theories, frameworks for understanding, and paradigms, came a further elaboration that involved a description of Reality as essentially Experience, with matter being metaphor for true existence — which was coincident with the findings of quantum physics and Idealistic and panentheistic perspectives of all times. This I did in Experience Is Divinity: Matter As Metaphor (2013). In it, I addressed the metaphysical basis of reality.
@sillymickel.bsky.socialSep 28, 2026, 12:47 AM

*DANCE OF THE SEVEN VEILS I: Primal/Identity Psychology, Mythology, & Your Real Self* (2017) by Michael Adzema.

Prol, Ch 5, p. 64

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Additionally, this feeling of underlying desperation keeps us in a fear which has us forever gauging our resources and the satisfaction of our wants and desires. In the extreme, we say someone is fixated on money or is someone who is like Donald Trump (lol). And this keeps us unable to enjoy the other aspects of life or to live in, appreciate, and take pleasure in the present ... meaning it keeps us from enjoying our life, really. We might have scrapped and fought to be able to afford fine steaks and expensive foods but be unable to truly taste them, largely because of this distracting fever with its focus on future gain to offset essentially imaginary dire insufficiencies of means. Another way of putting it is that this hellish template of insufficiency keeps us trapped in acting out of its pain grids rather than being able to move and behave in our life and make choices out of what will actually make us happy, which is our joy grids of early womb life. Living in the present and community belongingness and socialism would represent bringing forth our joy grids, and thus be the basis of our happiness. However because of this template of deprivation and fear, many of us cannot let ourselves have that ease and pleasure ... or any for that matter. It contributes as well to submissive and sycophantic behavior. For out of this fear of dire deprivation we will allow ourselves to succumb to the wishes and desires of higher ups, hoping that they will then take care… PROLOGUE: PRIMAL PSYCHOLOGY, FARTHER REACHES OF EXPERIENCE Page 64
@sillymickel.bsky.socialSep 27, 2026, 8:24 PM

*DANCE OF THE SEVEN VEILS I* Prol, Ch 3, p 39

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However, this process of forgetting, as I called it — this “descent” through the four falls from grace, which creates a person’s ego — is essentially a neurotic one. It is neurotic, because it is essentially maladaptive and self-destructive and creates an unreal self (using Janov’s term) which is inauthentic and which ultimately desires its own revolution or destruction in a spiritual process of re-membering and which inevitably, whether in one lifetime or many, brings that about. It is neurotic also in that it is a derailment of one’s healthy unfolding of personality and a deflection of that natural process onto substitute pathways. Which alternate pathways are, for the person, ever more inauthentic, increasingly more self-sabotaging, and pathetically more trivial, at each stage of descent from “grace.” As I put it, the end result of the neurotic process of diminishment of consciousness through the four falls from grace which creates the Ego and is responsible for the much talked about “ego strength” proposed by Ego psychologists ... the end result of all this was an insensitive sort — the kitty-drowners and butterfly-mashers of the world. I feel pretty sure I do not need to define that sort of personality for you. 3. THE FARTHER REACHES OF HUMAN EXPERIENCE Page 39
@sillymickel.bsky.socialSep 26, 2026, 6:26 PM

*DANCE OF THE SEVEN VEILS I* Prol, Ch 3, p. 39

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3. THE FARTHER REACHES OF HUMAN EXPERIENCE Page 39 Constructing the Matrix — the Four Stages of Forgetting Following upon these discoveries I realized that there were definite stages in the buildup of these grids and they corresponded to significant events in one’s life: The events are conception, birth, the primal scene, and the Identity stage of life. I called these the four falls from grace. Each event represented a diminution of Self or authentic beingness and a retreat from an innate spirituality and patterns of bliss and expanded perception, which characterizes us all at our beginnings and can actually be called Divine.7 Without being aware of the theories of Mott, Shoham, or Wasdell, and based only on personal experience of deep Primal states and observing and facilitating others in these states, along with relevant real life experience of my self and others and pertinent, salient research, I realized that life was a process of reduction of awareness from an original omniscient, omnipresent, and omnipotent state — a Divinity, a Divine state, a Godhead, a Source — which sets up the process of Ego construction and human experience.
@sillymickel.bsky.socialSep 26, 2026, 2:57 AM

*DANCE OF THE SEVEN VEILS I* Prol, Ch 3, p. 38

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Alongside this radical acceptance and honoring of the “Now,” was a radical acceptance and empathy, from the facilitator, of whatever came up in the client in the course of a session and in whatever form. Certainly we directed clients to go “deeper,” with whatever was going on, but we did not “bust” — thus we retained a certain degree of humility regarding our supposed therapeutic powers and wisdom, in that respect — and we required of ourselves to have gone far and deep in our own process so that we would not, even unconsciously, seek to direct or derail or channel any feelings of the client’s onto routes more intellectually or more emotionally satisfying to us. If you think about this kind of radical unconditional regard and you compare it with some of the techniques used on spiritual paths ... some of which might involve a truly all-accepting and profoundly loving guru ... and you bring to mind the kind of euphoric, all-encompassing acceptance and contentment many of us have experienced in our early womb states — what Grof calls BPM I experience — you might see why our way in Denver might be more conducive than Janov’s in making possible access to earlier states. With those states related, specifically, to joy and to spiritual grids, you can understand how a different and more positive type of “post-primal” person, from that described as resulting from Janov’s method alone, could be brought forth. PROLOGUE: PRIMAL PSYCHOLOGY, FARTHER REACHES OF EXPERIENCE Page 38
@sillymickel.bsky.socialSep 25, 2026, 3:58 AM

*DANCE OF THE SEVEN VEILS I: Primal/Identity Psychology, Mythology, & Your Real Self* (2017) by Michael Adzema.

Prol, Ch 5, p. 64

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PROLOGUE: PRIMAL PSYCHOLOGY, FARTHER REACHES OF EXPERIENCE Page 64 …number of nations on Earth have brought in any kind of socialism or safety net for all members of society. We engage in repetitive struggles to “breathe free.” We feel, unconsciously, stifled, needy, suffocated ... gasping. We create our Oliver Twist economies, rooted in selfishness and greed — “Please, sir, might I have some more? — out of this terror of not having had enough in the womb, during the last trimester. We experienced “starvation,” impover- ishment, deprivation at that time; and we have unconsciously made a pledge to ourselves never ever to experience that hellish insufficiency again even if it means warring, fighting, scrapping over resources, greed, excessive selfishness, or inhumanity and callousness to our fellow humans and especially to those in need. Because of this PME 2, oxygen starvation, we have feelings of panicky, near-drowning gasping added to PME 1 feelings of being overwhelmed, pressured, and blocked from free movement, or helplessness. Additionally, this feeling of underlying desperation keeps us in a fear which has us forever gauging our resources and the satisfaction of our wants and desires.
@sillymickel.bsky.socialSep 25, 2026, 1:22 AM

👶 How does birth trauma influence global history? For Michael Adzema, the "Prodigal Human" is a species reenacting its original birth pain.

• Individual: A traumatic birth creates a psychological "split."

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@sillymickel.bsky.socialSep 24, 2026, 10:17 PM

👶 How does birth trauma influence global history? For Michael Adzema, the "Prodigal Human" is a species reenacting its original birth pain.

• Individual: A traumatic birth creates a psychological "split."

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@sillymickel.bsky.socialSep 24, 2026, 8:17 PM

*DANCE OF THE SEVEN VEILS I* (2017) by Michael Adzema Prol, Ch 3, p. 38

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PROLOGUE: PRIMAL PSYCHOLOGY, FARTHER REACHES OF EXPERIENCE Page 38 …“moment” with the aid of the therapist, we were allowed to simply “be” more fully where we were already “at.” In doing so we found that feeling states deepened. As was said at the Center, “a feeling, is a feeling, is a feeling.” Meaning that whatever the client was feeling was the correct process, there was no “big primal” to get to, and that the present state, in every Now, was the correct one and was where one needed to be. We understood that all feelings were equally important and that, as for that dramatic big “primal” — imagined as necessary out of a common misinterpretation of Janov’s wording in his first book — what happened is that when one allowed whatever was going on to happen, those experiences deepened in intensity, in meaning, in insight and connections made, and in healing power. So those deepest, most intense experiences were primals, but all of it was “feeling one’s feelings.” And that — feeling whatever feelings came up — was the crucial and important thing. This tao of therapy (my term, not Denver’s) was expressed in Denver as, “the best way to get to where you are going is to be most fully exactly where you are.” Alongside this radical acceptance and honoring of the “Now,” was a radical acceptance and empathy, from the facilitator, of whatever came up in the client in the course of a session and in whatever form.
@sillymickel.bsky.socialSep 24, 2026, 1:38 AM

*DANCE OF THE SEVEN VEILS I: Primal/Identity Psychology, Mythology, & Your Real Self* (2017) by M. Adzema.

Prol, Ch 5, p. 63

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Whereas the time in early gestation, where things were easy and our needs were fully satisfied, would have a societal analogue in a socialist economic system, we cannot abide such a situation without difficulty. Everywhere around, in particular among conservatives of all nations, we hear the same refrain about the “survival of the fittest” and the “cruel” and “unfair” nature of reality. Yet it is not reality that is cruel and unfair. Indeed, we make it so out of our belief, which is rooted in this PME 2 oxygen deprivation wherein reality once was like that. Beyond that, we are forever fearful of a loss of resources or ability to fill our needs — which comes out in panic about employment, finances, and social status. We are always fearful that we are one event away from “being on the streets”; for, back then, “things were tight.” Notice how our language expresses both PME 1 as well as PME 2 feelings when speaking about resources. Yet we, for the most part in our societies on Earth, refuse to change such a situation and only reluctantly allow entitlements. Indeed, some sectors of society are actively at war with such largesse to those in need. Additionally, folks only occasionally support programs and politicians that contribute to a fairness in taxation that would have those with more ability to help be required to contribute more. Lastly, we show this imprint in that only a small… 5. THE PRENATAL MATRIX OF “HUMAN NATURE” Page 63
@sillymickel.bsky.socialSep 24, 2026, 12:41 AM

unless we address this biological-historical loop through experiential healing, we are doomed to keep re-enacting our birth trauma

until the species reaches a final breaking point.

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@sillymickel.bsky.socialSep 23, 2026, 7:57 PM

unless we address this biological-historical loop through experiential healing, we are doomed to keep re-enacting our birth trauma

until the species reaches a final breaking point.

🧵👇 #TruthWarriors ❕ #psychohistory #psychology holotropic #D7V1 #D7V2 Jiang Xuequin secret societies #Epstein

@sillymickel.bsky.socialSep 23, 2026, 6:02 PM

*DANCE OF THE SEVEN VEILS I* Prol, Ch 3, p 37

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Furthermore, such direction by the therapist-facilitator can lead the client away from where they need to and are able to go — possibly into areas that fit more with the therapists’ paradigm, that fit more with the facilitator’s preconceptions of what is possible and how the client’s process is “meant” to unfold, and not where the client needed or could go. This would not be helpful at all in allowing a therapeutic endeavor that could discover anything new, anything beyond what had been conceived beforehand by Janov. As mentioned above, this would lead clients away from the interpretation of valid spiritual states or the joy grids. They would not happen with Janov’s clients because they would not be thought to be able to happen. The Tao of Therapy What I saw that allowed access to these deeper states — access to the joy and spiritual grids — was more along the lines of what was proposed by Janov’s one-time head of training, Jules Roth, and his wife and co- therapist, Helen Roth, and their followers and trainees at the Certified Primal Therapists’ Center in Denver, Colorado. This is where I experienced the bulk of my Primal work and training. And there, instead of directing ourselves to an elusive primal… 3. THE FARTHER REACHES OF HUMAN EXPERIENCE Page 37
@sillymickel.bsky.socialSep 23, 2026, 2:22 AM

*DANCE OF THE SEVEN VEILS I: Primal/Identity Psychology, Mythology, & Your Real Self* by M. Adzema.

Prol, Ch 5, p. 63

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5. THE PRENATAL MATRIX OF “HUMAN NATURE” Page 63 …powerfully motivating for some because, rooted in this time of oxygen suffocation, it can be felt to be as desperate and panicky as a person drowning. This can lead to extreme selfishness and narcissism. This struggle over resources will come out in many areas of human lives, including oppression, revolution, elitism, and the push for domination of others and hierarchy in society, eventually. Since this is all about resources and the satisfaction of needs — of oxygen and nutrients in the womb — it comes out in particular around our behavior in regard to the fulfillment of our physical needs as adults, which is economics. There are reasons, for example, why we insist on a dog-eat-dog capitalism or an even more unfair feudalism or strong-man economy. Because it was difficult at this time in the womb and we needed to struggle in order stay alive and merely get oxygen, we feel that struggling and frustration are natural states. We even consider them aspects of a proclaimed-to-be-unchangeable “human nature” ... though they are not. Whereas the time in early gestation, where things were easy and our needs were fully satisfied, would have a societal analogue in a socialist economic system, we cannot abide such a situation without difficulty.
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